KoE Disciplines cost the same amount for the first dot (10 XP), but the cost is increased for the subsequent ones (8 XP per dot), which is 60% more than the vampires pay for an in-clan Discipline (5 XP per dot) and around 14% more than the vampires pay for the out-of-clan Disciplines (7 XP per dot). I checked some elder Kuei-Jin NPCs in the Tokyo and Hong Kong books, and their freebie levels (very approximative) seem to take them to the upper echelons of their corresponding dharmic age ranges. And then spend the truckload of freebies as per the KotE core book. If you go with the chargen-build method, Attributes, Abilities, Backgrounds and freebies should be as above for Kindred, and I'd give 7 free dots in Disciplines, 6 for Chi Virtues and 2 for Soul Virtues (and the free basic dots as for young characters). Now, as to the Kuei-Jin, you may proceed with the XP-MP method, which is quite straightforward, as XP is XP in both on the East and the West side. Freebies: 30 pts for a basic elder of 201-350 years, plus 15 pts for every 150 years of beingg active (meaning loss of Road).Road rating (Humanity, what-have-you) is decreased by 1 for every 150 years of activity.half in clan), 15 Background dost, 7 Virtue dots (above the free rating of 1 in each), base generation is 9th Attributes: 10 / 7 / 5 (above the free rating of 1 in each).The rules are also in the same book, on pp. If you want less complexity, you can design elders from scratch as you would a neonate, just with more points. You should check out the Dark Ages: Storyteller's Companion, pp. It is very complicated, and is even more so as Maturation Point gains and costs depend on the character's activity level in any given century/decade. But for elder vampires (above 200 years), XP costs increase (but MP costs don't). Maturation Points (MPs) may be spent at basically the same rates as XPs. The basic idea is that in downtime characters are much less active than when blood flows freely.Ĭharacters get Maturation points based on the time spent in any given downtime period, as below.

This one is from Dark Ages: Vampire which, methinks, has the latest incarnation of downtime maturation rules.

So I'll try to summarize the Kin-jin (Kindred) rules. I do not know if there exist rules for elder Kuei-Jin chargen.

Kindred of the east disciplines